Thursday, March 10, 2011

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16 comments:

kolymatram said...

that does make sence !
:-D

Insolitus said...

Job description includes making signs.

Paulo Ugolini said...
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Anonymous said...

It says "good", not perfect. Lighten up.

Insolitus said...

Paulo, when it comes to the evidence at hand, your accusation is unsupported. Minimising the chance of miscommunication in a hectic work place may actually be important in this case. And what if the job includes speaking on the phone or writing stuff? Language requirements are not always discrimination.

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Insolitus said...

There are several plausible stories behind the sign, but you have decided racist discrimination is the only possible one because... Is it just a feeling? No wonder you mock reason.

What if the employer is the one who's immigrant and they require someone with good English skills to help them with the paperwork or supplier contacts or whatever?

Quase said...

If (legal) migrant workers want to work in the US, they need to learn to speak English. Insolitus is absolutely right, is it discrimination is a hospital wants to hire a nurse that speaks English properly? If you have a restaurant, would you hire a perfectly capable waiter that doesn't speak the local language? Speaking a certain language is part of a job description (especially outside the US, where "speaking English" is a basic requirement).

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Quase said...

Two points: what do you think a kitchen assistant does? He will probably work attached to a chef, who will be issuing commands in English. Again, I would not want an employee under my command to not understand the common language we speak in the US (regardless of position or function), even though officially, the US has no national language.
Second: I can tell from personal experience that I have stopped patronizing business (in my case, a hair saloon), because employees there didn't speak English (imagine trying to explain the haircut you want in a language you do not understand). The business owner may not be "prejudiced" as you indicated, he may simply want to preserve his business from people who ARE bothered by services supplied in Spanish (or any other language other than the regional standard).
Ever heard of Occam's razor? Much easier for the situation to be an owner trying to offer the best service to his customers than him being prejudiced and bothering with language discrimination.

PS: I was born in Curitiba as well, lived near the Bacacheri airport for a long time, graduated at Tuiuti University. When you look for a job in Brazil, how many ads require "English skills", even though you are not likely to ever have to speak English at that job?

Insolitus said...

I am not justifying anything, I am not claiming anything and the only way my personal beliefs are showing, I think, is the way I keep an open mind and don't jump to conclusions without evidence. You insist that the meagre sign has to be ethnic or racial discrimination, I say it might be that, but it also might not be that at all. We simply don't know, and that's that.

Ratz said...

TL;DR

Paulo Ugolini said...
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Insolitus said...

And I love seeing people who can't admit being the slightest bit wrong make fools of themselves. I am amused.

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